bon là je vais un peu faire ma boutonneuse, mais j'ai trouvé les archives de henry spencer !!!!
yalaaa...
bon ok, j'essplike, passkeu là ça fait bête, un peu.
qui est henry spencer ? ben un mec de toronto qui dès 1981 a archivé sur bande magnétique les touuuut 1ers "forums", enfin espaces de discussions du réseau nouveau-né Usenet.
alors bon, ça a un intérêt relatif, mais jtrouve ça rigolo, passkeu on y voit entre autres la touuuute 1ère mention faite dans un magazine de la création d'une petite entreprise, Microsoft.
Pareil pour Macintosh.
enfin vouala. doit bien y avoir 2-3 ploucs comme moi que ça intéresse ici, non ?
vla le lien : http://www.google.com/googlegroups/arch ... ce_20.html
je résiste pas, jvous mets la fameuse intervention du mec qui parle de Microsoft pour la 1ère fois sur un réseau informatique uhuhuhu :
" De :unc!smb (unc!smb)
Objet :XENIX
View: Complete Thread (2 articles)
Original Format
Groupes de discussion :net.general, net.general
Date :1981-05-28 21:40:54 PST
The June issue of BYTE magazine has a fairly long article on XENIX by
Microsoft's XENIX product manager. Mostly, it's a standard "What's a
UNIX" paper, but it also describes some of the enhancements they are
adding to V7. The most important is support; additionally, they are
going to add a fair amount of hardware error recovery (bad block
handling, parity and power fail interrupts, etc.), as well as record
handling, shared data segments, synchronous writing, improved
interprocess communications, networking, and languages: Pascal, BASIC,
FORTRAN, and COBOL. "
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'tendez, jcontinue !
la 1ère mention d'un drole de support audiophonique, le CD
" De :rabbit!jj (rabbit!jj)
Objet :Re: New technologies
View: Complete Thread (2 articles)
Original Format
Groupes de discussion :net.audio
Date :1982-07-26 22:18:06 PST
F E H !!!
Replying to the article which bears this article's head.
1) Direct drive turntables do NOT have more low frequency noise than
belt drive turntables. What they DO have is "cogging" distortion, so
named for the stepping motor's tendency to provide an impulse every
t sub s seconds. This impulse does two things:
a) It propigates through the entire platter system, causing noise
pickup at a frequency which is NOT low, and
b) It causes a very slight FM modulation of the material being
reproduced. This effect "seems" to be the cause of most dislike of
direct drive turntable, in fact, it is responsible for the 'unique' sound
of several of the direct drive breed. There are a few turntables using
quadrature drive that do not have this problem. Strangely enough, they
sound a lot like a belt drive turntable. The IM and sideband properties of
this kind of modulation are mind boggling. Try it yourself.
Non-the-less, I still wonder what is wrong with a servo'ed BELT drive.
It has the advantages of both systems, and few of the problems. Its only
problem is its belt, and that is common to all belt drives (funny thing!).
2) "Class A" amplifiers have been touted in the high end market for a long
time. REgardless of advertising noise, class a is class a. If the output
device doesn't conduct linearly through the whole cycle, it ain't class
a. There have been several important new designs in the biasing of NON
class A amplifiers lately, but these amps are not in the high end market,
they don't need to be. There is NO reason why any amplifier has to be in
the high end market.
3) There are several untruths listed under this head. I will cover a couple.
a). The filter doesn't have to have an instantanious change from
on to off. In most cases, the sampling rates are chosen to be ABOVE! the
Nyquist frequency far enough that the filters are not that difficult to design.
In fact, that is usually the one thing that constrains the sampling rate.
b). D/A conversion, since the advent of the digital audio "threat"
has been pushed quite a ways. The D/A that cost 300 $ ten years ago now
costs $80 and works better. If a 16 bit D/A introduces noise above
-96dB, it isn't a 16 bit D/A, by definition. The A/D and D/A introduce
noise only as they quantize the signal to 16 bits. If they do otherwise,
they should be replaced with a relatively inexpensive unit that WILL work
right. So much for that. The signal coming into the A/D may not have 16 bits
resolution, but it isn't any worse than the same signal that is being used
for disc or tape, so that arugement is handwaving.
c). The idea that digital has a lower signal to noise ratio for lower
energy signals is true. So does everything else. If the Signal to Noise
Ratio (SNR) is better, then the noise will be less troublesome, if the noise
is of the same (white) type. Disc's, tape, and the like have exactly the same
behavior, except that the signal disappears at a higher level, indicating that
the noise is causing MORE damage.
As far as standardazation, I couldn't agree more. There are several
systems (Phillips has suporters in Japan, BTW) where there should be
one. The reasons don't even have to do with competition. I could flame
for hours about that.
On the other hand, quad doesn't have much to do with digital, as far as
public acceptance is concerned. I have listened to quad setups, and I don't
like them very much. A proper stereo system sounds more realistic to me
than a quad recording, even including ambiance. I'm not convinced
that quad is better. I am convinced that a record that doesn't lose high
frequencies when it's played, doesn't automatically introduce 3% distortion,
and is washable if it gets dirty, has much to offer. Especially since
it sounds so much better.
Now-- If we could only raise Stowkowski for a few recording sessions.
J.D.Johnston rabbit!jj BTL/MH "
la 1ère mention d'un drole de support audiophonique, le CD
" De :rabbit!jj (rabbit!jj)
Objet :Re: New technologies
View: Complete Thread (2 articles)
Original Format
Groupes de discussion :net.audio
Date :1982-07-26 22:18:06 PST
F E H !!!
Replying to the article which bears this article's head.
1) Direct drive turntables do NOT have more low frequency noise than
belt drive turntables. What they DO have is "cogging" distortion, so
named for the stepping motor's tendency to provide an impulse every
t sub s seconds. This impulse does two things:
a) It propigates through the entire platter system, causing noise
pickup at a frequency which is NOT low, and
b) It causes a very slight FM modulation of the material being
reproduced. This effect "seems" to be the cause of most dislike of
direct drive turntable, in fact, it is responsible for the 'unique' sound
of several of the direct drive breed. There are a few turntables using
quadrature drive that do not have this problem. Strangely enough, they
sound a lot like a belt drive turntable. The IM and sideband properties of
this kind of modulation are mind boggling. Try it yourself.
Non-the-less, I still wonder what is wrong with a servo'ed BELT drive.
It has the advantages of both systems, and few of the problems. Its only
problem is its belt, and that is common to all belt drives (funny thing!).
2) "Class A" amplifiers have been touted in the high end market for a long
time. REgardless of advertising noise, class a is class a. If the output
device doesn't conduct linearly through the whole cycle, it ain't class
a. There have been several important new designs in the biasing of NON
class A amplifiers lately, but these amps are not in the high end market,
they don't need to be. There is NO reason why any amplifier has to be in
the high end market.
3) There are several untruths listed under this head. I will cover a couple.
a). The filter doesn't have to have an instantanious change from
on to off. In most cases, the sampling rates are chosen to be ABOVE! the
Nyquist frequency far enough that the filters are not that difficult to design.
In fact, that is usually the one thing that constrains the sampling rate.
b). D/A conversion, since the advent of the digital audio "threat"
has been pushed quite a ways. The D/A that cost 300 $ ten years ago now
costs $80 and works better. If a 16 bit D/A introduces noise above
-96dB, it isn't a 16 bit D/A, by definition. The A/D and D/A introduce
noise only as they quantize the signal to 16 bits. If they do otherwise,
they should be replaced with a relatively inexpensive unit that WILL work
right. So much for that. The signal coming into the A/D may not have 16 bits
resolution, but it isn't any worse than the same signal that is being used
for disc or tape, so that arugement is handwaving.
c). The idea that digital has a lower signal to noise ratio for lower
energy signals is true. So does everything else. If the Signal to Noise
Ratio (SNR) is better, then the noise will be less troublesome, if the noise
is of the same (white) type. Disc's, tape, and the like have exactly the same
behavior, except that the signal disappears at a higher level, indicating that
the noise is causing MORE damage.
As far as standardazation, I couldn't agree more. There are several
systems (Phillips has suporters in Japan, BTW) where there should be
one. The reasons don't even have to do with competition. I could flame
for hours about that.
On the other hand, quad doesn't have much to do with digital, as far as
public acceptance is concerned. I have listened to quad setups, and I don't
like them very much. A proper stereo system sounds more realistic to me
than a quad recording, even including ambiance. I'm not convinced
that quad is better. I am convinced that a record that doesn't lose high
frequencies when it's played, doesn't automatically introduce 3% distortion,
and is washable if it gets dirty, has much to offer. Especially since
it sounds so much better.
Now-- If we could only raise Stowkowski for a few recording sessions.
J.D.Johnston rabbit!jj BTL/MH "
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voilà y a aussi des trucs aussi divers que la 1ère mention du SIDA, de Madonna, de la Commodore 64 
(ça doit en intéresser kekzuns ici ça quand même), des emoticons, des portables, des hoax, des... enfin breuf.
allez, jvous mets celle à propos de la Commodore 64
"De :doug@sri-unix (doug@sri-unix)
Objet :Commodore 64 - A New Computer
View: Complete Thread (2 articles)
Original Format
Groupes de discussion :net.micro
Date :1982-08-20 23:18:28 PST
Any opinions on the new Commodore 64 computer. I've seen it and it
looks pretty neat.
(i) it comes with 64K of memory standard
(ii) in highest graphics resolution it has 320 X 200 pixels.
In lower resolutions you can display 16 colors
simultaneously, but the number of simultaneous colors
goes down with increased resolution.
(iii) it uses a version of sprite graphics
(iv) it has a cheap plug in telephone modem (only 40 characters
per row)
(v) it uses 6510 (like 6502 but with extra I/O ports) and will
have a plug-in Z80 option.
(vi) it has a synthesizer built in with three voices, each can
play over 9 octaves in a variety of waveforms with different
attacks, decays, etc.
(vii) it lists for $595 but can be bought for less (at American
of Madison, for example!). Magazines were offering it
for as little as $479 but are not coming thru. It seems
that Commodore has forbidden mail order firms from
dealing in the 64.
(viii) it uses the same Microsoft BASIC as the PET. They say
they will have Pascal for it soon."
(ça doit en intéresser kekzuns ici ça quand même), des emoticons, des portables, des hoax, des... enfin breuf.allez, jvous mets celle à propos de la Commodore 64
"De :doug@sri-unix (doug@sri-unix)
Objet :Commodore 64 - A New Computer
View: Complete Thread (2 articles)
Original Format
Groupes de discussion :net.micro
Date :1982-08-20 23:18:28 PST
Any opinions on the new Commodore 64 computer. I've seen it and it
looks pretty neat.
(i) it comes with 64K of memory standard
(ii) in highest graphics resolution it has 320 X 200 pixels.
In lower resolutions you can display 16 colors
simultaneously, but the number of simultaneous colors
goes down with increased resolution.
(iii) it uses a version of sprite graphics
(iv) it has a cheap plug in telephone modem (only 40 characters
per row)
(v) it uses 6510 (like 6502 but with extra I/O ports) and will
have a plug-in Z80 option.
(vi) it has a synthesizer built in with three voices, each can
play over 9 octaves in a variety of waveforms with different
attacks, decays, etc.
(vii) it lists for $595 but can be bought for less (at American
of Madison, for example!). Magazines were offering it
for as little as $479 but are not coming thru. It seems
that Commodore has forbidden mail order firms from
dealing in the 64.
(viii) it uses the same Microsoft BASIC as the PET. They say
they will have Pascal for it soon."
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aaah bon désolée pour le spoil, mais voici la 1ère mention des Simpsons en 1989 : (y a d'autres dessins animés mentionnés, mais je mets juste le passage sur les simpsons)
"De :Jeff Meyer (moriarty@tc.fluke.COM)
Objet :REVIEW: Second Animation Celebration: The Movie
Seul article de ce fil
View: Original Format
Groupes de discussion :rec.arts.movies, rec.arts.anime
Date :1989-09-15 16:15:32 PST
The Second Animation Celebration is a collection of animated shorts put
together by the people who distribute the Tournees of Animation around the
country. It's advertised as being composed of all premieres, which isn't
quite true, but the majority of the shorts were ones I hadn't seen in any
other festival. As animation collections go, this was pretty good; not the
best I've seen, but fairly even, with only a few films which fell flat.
A brief overview:
THE SIMPSONS: Matt Groening of LIFE IN HELL produced about five short
collections of cartoons featuring The Simpsons throughout the film. They're
good -- dead spots exist, but most hit. They're not quite premieres, though
-- I suspect these were originally shown on THE TRACY ULLMAN SHOW. But
they're reliably funny, if a bit drab at points.
(...)
Moriarty, aka Jeff Meyer
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"De :Jeff Meyer (moriarty@tc.fluke.COM)
Objet :REVIEW: Second Animation Celebration: The Movie
Seul article de ce fil
View: Original Format
Groupes de discussion :rec.arts.movies, rec.arts.anime
Date :1989-09-15 16:15:32 PST
The Second Animation Celebration is a collection of animated shorts put
together by the people who distribute the Tournees of Animation around the
country. It's advertised as being composed of all premieres, which isn't
quite true, but the majority of the shorts were ones I hadn't seen in any
other festival. As animation collections go, this was pretty good; not the
best I've seen, but fairly even, with only a few films which fell flat.
A brief overview:
THE SIMPSONS: Matt Groening of LIFE IN HELL produced about five short
collections of cartoons featuring The Simpsons throughout the film. They're
good -- dead spots exist, but most hit. They're not quite premieres, though
-- I suspect these were originally shown on THE TRACY ULLMAN SHOW. But
they're reliably funny, if a bit drab at points.
(...)
Moriarty, aka Jeff Meyer
INTERNET: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM
Manual UUCP: {uw-beaver, sun, hplsla, thebes, microsoft}!fluke!moriarty
CREDO: You gotta be Cruel to be Kind...
<*> DISCLAIMER: Do what you want with me, but leave my employers alone! <*>
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bon allez, pour ma défense, je dois dire que ce qui me fascine vraiment dans ces archives, ce sont toutes ces 1ères mentions faites d'évènements qui pour la plupart allaient devenir véritablement historiques.
la chute du mur, le massacre de tien an men, le terrorisme international etc.
et tout ceci mentionné non par les journalistes eux-mêmes, mais relayés par des pékins basiques, des mecs forcément un peu nerds ou scientifiques puisque les 1ers à squatter les réseaux, et vraiment, ça me fascine !
hahaha jem, ma devise NIFIG : NERD IS FUN, NERD IS GREAT ! BECOME A NERD !!!
uhuhuu
ouiiiii c'est mon talon d'achille !!
bon allez, pour ma défense, je dois dire que ce qui me fascine vraiment dans ces archives, ce sont toutes ces 1ères mentions faites d'évènements qui pour la plupart allaient devenir véritablement historiques.
la chute du mur, le massacre de tien an men, le terrorisme international etc.
et tout ceci mentionné non par les journalistes eux-mêmes, mais relayés par des pékins basiques, des mecs forcément un peu nerds ou scientifiques puisque les 1ers à squatter les réseaux, et vraiment, ça me fascine !
hahaha jem, ma devise NIFIG : NERD IS FUN, NERD IS GREAT ! BECOME A NERD !!!
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